April 5, 2018
NAB 2018

Affordable Full Frame 4K is Now a Reality Thanks to Nikon and Atomos

Nikon and Atomos have teamed up to release a single bundle of the D850 and the Ninja Flame to make Full Frame 4K capture as affordable as possible.

Full Frame has become the hottest arena of competition in the last year, but most of the activity has frankly been well beyond anything the indie filmmaker can event afford to rent. Of course, we've been shooting full frame video for a decade with the Canon 5D starting way back with the Mark II, but that camera platform only got 4K relatively late to the game and still only allows 1080p out with the 5D Mark IV. This has lead to a lot of excitement that you can get full frame, 4K out of the Nikon D850, but you still needed an external platform to capture it to. The HDMI-based Ninja Flame from Atomos was a great fit, so much that Nikon and Atomos have teamed up to release a kit combining the two to make for one-stop shopping for filmmakers.

Credit: Nikon Atomos

The Nikon D850 body on its own is $3295.00. The Atomos Ninja Flame is $795. The kit comes with 20mm 1.8, 35mm 1.8, and 85mm 1.8 lenses that go for $796.25, $526.75 and $476.95. All of which totals $5889.95. The filmmakers kit rolls it together for $5496.95—nearly $400 off—so almost throwing in the 85mm lens for free.

Interestingly, the photos show extra batteries and wireless microphones (the ME-W1 Wireless Microphone), which would be a great addition to the kit, but they are not officially listed as being included. Whether they are or not, it's a great all-in-one package to get set up and ready to capture 4K, ProRes or DNx footage straight out of the gate, with audio recording being a bonus on top of that if it's included. One pleasant overlap is that the Ninja Flame uses a red bumper, as does Nikon, creating an integrated visual overlap, which we're pretty sure is just a happy accident.

You hear that Canon?  The D850 has always been knocking at your door, but this is the knock getting much louder. You listening?

The Nikon D850 Filmmaker's Kit is available now.

Tech Specs

Nikon D850

  • 45.7MP FX-Format BSI CMOS Sensor
  • EXPEED 5 Image Processor
  • 3.2" 2.36m-Dot Tilting Touchscreen LCD
  • 4K UHD Video Recording at 30 fps
  • Multi-CAM 20K 153-Point AF System
  • Native ISO: 64-25600,Extended: 32-102400
  • 7 fps Shooting for 51 Frames with AE/AF
  • 8K Time-Lapse, Negative Digitizer Mode
  • 180k-Pixel RGB Sensor, Focus Shift Mode
  • SnapBridge Bluetooth and Wi-Fi

Atomos Ninja Flame

  • 7" 1920 x 1200 10-bit 325 PPI Monitor with HDR Technology
  • Brightness: 1500 nits 
  • More rugged design
  • Records 4K up to 30p, 1080p up to 120fps
  • 10-bit DNxHD (from LB to HQX) and ProRes Codecs (LT to HQ)
  • Uses non-proprietary media, can take SSDs or HDDs using Atomos custom housing
  • Audio: 2ch balanced XLR analog in/out, 48V Phantom Mic Power
  • Power input moved to rear, New D-Tap to DC cable
  • Dual battery design allows hot-swapping, NP series batteries, 10 - 24W operating power
  • Battery Life: 5200mAh - up to 1.5hrs (monitor & record 4K), 7800mAh - up to 2.2hrs (monitor & record 4K) 
  • 10-bit processing — 1.07 billion colors vs. 16.7 million of traditional 8-bit panels
  • 1 x HDMI 1.4b Input and 1 x HDMI 1.4b Output
  • 1 x Genlock
  • Weight with batteries and media: 1094g / 38.6oz 

Your Comment

17 Comments

Where were you when the Sony a7s came out? Or the a7s2, or the a7r2....need I go on?

April 5, 2018 at 12:51PM, Edited April 5, 12:51PM

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Here they were: https://nofilmschool.com/2014/05/sony-releases-pricing-availability-for-a7s

It's not that they're not covering everything, it's that nobody who writes for this site cares enough to keep things consistent, coherent, and accurate.

April 9, 2018 at 1:25AM, Edited April 9, 1:25AM

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Jacob Floyd
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Yeah. Sarcasm.

April 11, 2018 at 9:18AM

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not really that great. Lenses are dedicated still lenses, so accessories might be difficult to use. It's virtually pointless to use the HDMI output since the image quality is pretty similar.

April 5, 2018 at 1:05PM

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Nikon has to really jump into the cinema market with a cine camera line of its own.

April 5, 2018 at 1:26PM

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Derek Hanson
Director / DP
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Just checked out some footage shot with this camera after reading this article, it looks very video-ey and has severe rolling shutter. I guess this'd be cool in a vlogging scenario or for some other youtube content. Not a cinema look for sure.

April 5, 2018 at 1:32PM, Edited April 5, 1:32PM

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Steve-O
Director of Photography
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Tested D850 for video when my wife bought it as a photographer. At first I was very sceptical, but then it sort of grew on me. Even the full frame which I never considered before, S35 size always seemed perfect. Was looking for some DSLR size camera for small fun projects, and D850 does look good. My finding was completely different - it looked the least video-ey of the bunch. Yes, rolling shutter is quite bad, but workable. The detail is excellent, and no oversharpening like in some of the other photo cameras that shoot video. This is a fine example: https://vimeo.com/258781771

April 5, 2018 at 2:26PM

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I have a Nikon D850 and it's beautiful. It can totally look cinematic and when I've shown video and stills without saying the camera people typically guess much much much more expensive cameras.

I use it for music videos. It's amazing for the price. I have Sony stuff as well but the picture quality is just so much better.

April 5, 2018 at 3:29PM

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I'm not sure I understand the purpose of this website anymore...

April 5, 2018 at 4:47PM, Edited April 5, 4:47PM

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Lee Cohen
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agree so much with this

April 5, 2018 at 8:26PM

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Nick Gregoris
DP, Colorist
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Was my Sony A7s not full-frame enough or not 4k enough in 2014? Who is writing these articles? Not anyone who is either a journalist or a filmmaker.

April 5, 2018 at 8:48PM

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Noah Leon
Videographer editor
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Not the first, or the most affordable. Any Sony setup comes in well under this price. The latest A7iii is even $2,100 with a lens.

Easiest factcheck ever.

April 5, 2018 at 10:28PM, Edited April 5, 10:28PM

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Pat Heine
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While I'm sure this makes a fine enough image, with all the limitations you expect from DSLR (or mirrorless) video, this is hardly "news". I can't see any situation where this package is a good deal. Nikon, while making quality product, is not the name that comes to mind for video. If you already own Nikon gear, you don't want this package, and if you are just starting out, you don't want this package as there are much cheaper ways to get the same functionality.

April 6, 2018 at 5:03PM

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Keith Mullin
Rental Manager
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Can someone link to where the HDMI output information can be found? I can't seem to find anything from Nikon that says it outputs anything worth recording? Sure it outputs 4k but what is the bitrate? the color space? What makes anyone think this beats the A7s external 4k? Or the A7sII 4k, 10 bit, 4:2:2? I don't see the relevance of the Nikon choice. Sure, you COULD argue the lenses but with a Sony E-mount you can convert to near any lens type because the flange distance starts so close. I can't imagine why this is in anyway as interesting as the title suggests. Some more click-bait from NFS.... no surprise there I guess...

April 6, 2018 at 10:29PM, Edited April 6, 10:29PM

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Matthias Claflin
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Afaik, Sony A7SII only outputs 8bits, same as Nikon.

April 7, 2018 at 10:44AM

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My apologies.

April 12, 2018 at 7:15PM

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Matthias Claflin
Videographer
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Is there someone checking the article and title before publishing it?
This title is totally misleading and wrong!!!
Affordable full frame is a reality for a while with the Sony A7 lineup camera. Worst you can record directly inside the camera in 4K in S-Log2 and 3, or event externally on a Atomos recorder if you want.
What this guy have something against Sony or against a the truth?
It might be the first affordable 4K solution from Nikon but definitely not the solution that make 4K full frame affordable a reality!!

April 6, 2018 at 11:21PM

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