August 4, 2015

Samyang/Rokinon are Coming Out with a Set of True Cine Prime Lenses

Rokinon XEEM 50mm Cine Lens
Samyang/Rokinon are well-established for their affordable low-end full-frame 35mm cine primes.

[Update]: These are now available to order.

But now they're looking to take on the likes of Zeiss, Canon, and Schneider with true cine lenses that can cover full-frame/Vista Vision (but for less money than those others).

The company is expected to announce next week a new set of primes by the name of XEEN, and they look to be a much higher end product than what it currently offers. It looks like the new set, when formally announced on August 10, will consist of three lenses: a 24mm, 50mm, and 85mm, all with a constant aperture of T/1.5. We've also got more info from another source that these will have metal bodies, consistent focus marks (with unified focus/apertures positions), unified 114mm front diameters, 11 bladed aperture, and much longer focus throws than the previous set of cine primes. Also it looks like they will weigh in around the 2.5 pounds or so each.

Cinescopophilia managed to get some early photos of the new XEEN lenses. Here's what we've got so far:

Samyang Rokinon XEEN 50mm Cine Lens
Samyang Rokinon XEEN 24mm Cine Lens

And here is a bit more information on Twitter:

It looks like the XEEN primes will be offered in all of the same mounting options as their other lenses, so you can expect an Canon EF mount, Nikon F, Sony E, and Micro Four Thirds. However, they're also going to offer a PL version, which is fantastic. No word on whether the optics of these are brand new, or whether they're just rehoused versions of their current lineup, but they will cover full-frame.

These lenses are expected to cost around $2500 each (though it's possible they could list for higher), which puts them well beyond the prices that Samyang/Rokinon are known for. However, they're still significantly less expensive than competing options like the Zeiss CP.2, Canon Cine primes, and Schneider Xenon primes, all of which cost $4,000 to $5,000 a pop. 

We'll have more information about these lenses when the official announcement comes next week. In the meantime, check out the XEEN facebook page and head over to Cinescopophilia for more.     

Rokinon is the US name for the Samyang lens brand, distributed by Elite Brands here.

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All i want someone to make new anamorphic primes for EF & PL.
Then can should be cine primes, but ill settle for slr lenses

August 4, 2015 at 2:25PM, Edited August 4, 2:25PM

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David Carmichael
Shooter, editor
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...Considering that the anamorphic version of the Veydra Micro 4/3 primes cost about 5 times the price of their non-anamorphic primes ( $5,000+ vs $1,000+ ), this would put anamorphic versions of the Samyang XEEN primes at about $12,000+ each.

Still cheaper than paying $30,000+ for Zeiss anamorphic primes, but still a little rich for the typical Indie shooter.

August 4, 2015 at 2:47PM, Edited August 4, 2:48PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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But still no PL mount for old cine lineup?

August 4, 2015 at 2:36PM, Edited August 4, 2:36PM

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Never going to happen. These new XEEN primes are Samyang's answer to the people who have been asking for PL mount cine lenses.

August 4, 2015 at 2:49PM, Edited August 4, 2:49PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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I don't think you'll ever see that, especially with these new lenses coming out. Those lenses are cheap, and should stay cheap, and introducing PL would probably add cost unfortunately.

August 4, 2015 at 2:49PM

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Joe Marine
Camera Department

I fear there is some confusion between "cheaper than competitors" and "affordable" here. I'm relatively certain that 95% on this site would class spending more than $1500 on a lens to be unaffordable. I have a full set of the Samyang cineprimes and they're utterly amazing for the price but this will only alienate buyers, if you have this kind of money you are going to go for the real deal not the knockoff. I agree with the other posts as well, if a company came out with true anamorphic lenses that cost less than $750 then they'd made a fortune overnight.

August 4, 2015 at 3:21PM, Edited August 4, 3:21PM

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Matt Robinson
Film Educator & Cinematographer
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>>> if you have this kind of money you are going to go for the real deal not the knockoff

But the real deal ( i.e. Cooke Cine Primes, Leica Cine Primes, Zeiss Ultra Primes ) are going to cost more than 5 times the price of these Samyang XEEN cine lenses, so I don't think that's realistic either. ( the Zeiss CP.2 primes are remounted Zeiss DSLR lenses )

August 4, 2015 at 3:29PM

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Guy McLoughlin
Video Producer
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My apologies, when i said the "real deal" I was referring to the Canon, Zeiss and Schneider lens that are mentioned in the article as the range to which this competes not the lenses you said which obviously cost a lot more.

August 4, 2015 at 4:03PM

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Matt Robinson
Film Educator & Cinematographer
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i came a little.

August 4, 2015 at 3:25PM, Edited August 4, 3:25PM

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Hmm I think I might actually need these. They look just like the Xenon FF primes too, so I can play-pretend.

August 4, 2015 at 3:36PM

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Micah Van Hove
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director, producer, dp

I wonder how these will compare to the Sony Cinealta lenses? (Which are $2,150/ea)

These Xeens are definitely faster, lighter, and have 11 instead of 9 aperture blades already. I do wish the mount was switchable like the Ziess lenses.

August 4, 2015 at 4:52PM, Edited August 4, 4:52PM

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Matthew Emmanuel
Camera Operator
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The Sony Cinealta are great, but they don't cover a full frame sensor.

August 5, 2015 at 8:25AM

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Martin Håndlykken
Freelance ENG, videographer and editor
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Which is not that big of a deal as most people are shooting with Super35 or smaller sensors.

August 5, 2015 at 9:16AM

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Guy McLoughlin
Video Producer
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I wonder if these will offer the same inconsistent focus markings, super softness, and other unwanted qualities of the current cine primes they make. For the price of the originals, sure they're alright. But for this price, well it's just not worth it. Even considering MSRP is never what you should end up paying for lenses (High end lenses are like buying a car, you can negotiate the cost), these lenses just don't do it for me. Plus no one will want to rent them for more than like $160 a day for the set

August 4, 2015 at 5:06PM

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Patrick Hanover
Cinematographer
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In Canada, Canon Cn-E are price matched to US prices, so they're $3900 here too. Rokinon/Samyang are not price matched, so that $2500 becomes $3300.

I'd rather pay the extra $600 for the Canons.

I think these should be closer to $1800.

August 4, 2015 at 5:55PM

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seanmclennan
Story Teller
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If samyang is smart they will cut that cost way down. Lenses are all about brand reputation and history nearly as much as the look itself and I think thats still probably too much to ask as most people here will say.

August 4, 2015 at 7:40PM, Edited August 4, 7:40PM

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Ricky Norris
Director/Cinematographer
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I think if they can keep it at $2,000 or slightly below, they can have a real winner in terms of value. Hopefully the optical and build quality will improve enough to warrant the price increase, but I am super excited for this.

There just isn't enough indie-budget high quality primes outside of the Veydras, which is of course, only for mFT.

August 5, 2015 at 12:03AM

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Joe Gunawan
DP/Camera Op/1st&2ndAC/Commercial Photographer
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I was an early adopter of the Rokinon Cinema lenses and to this day use them on almost every shoot. From image quality to functionality to cost they are pretty enticing. That 85 is magic. I am seriously intrigued by these new Xeem lenses. I doubt I would buy them but I would certainly rent them.

August 5, 2015 at 11:50AM

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Mike Collins
Director & Cinematographer
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With those 114mm fronts these will be flipping huge. He'll, barring the extreme wides and a long tele, the ultra primes are 95mm. Only primes I know that aren't in the "best glass currently avaliable" class and use 114mm fronts are the Cine-Alta primes.

August 5, 2015 at 2:28PM

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Oscar Stegland
DP/Steadicam
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Wow these comments are kind of crazy...Here we have a great company who put good quality lens in the hands of shooters at a GREAT price range! Now this company is ambitious enough to tackle the Cinema world, and I say more power to them. Why complain that these lenses will be a little more than their other offerings, of course they will if they are true cinema lens you get what you paying for. Complaining at all about this seems a little more than ungrateful to a company that is pushing the envelope and giving us good value products in an industry that lacks it.

August 5, 2015 at 3:53PM, Edited August 5, 3:53PM

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Adam Arad
Cinematogrpher
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Good for Rokinon. So what if they cost way more than their plastic "cine" lenses. at 2500 a pop you'll own a set of most likely commercial grade cine lenses for 10k (assuming they add a 135 and an 18). That's a steal if you plan to use them for work. You can probably rent the set for 200/day and make your investment back fast.

My only misgiving is that they're 2.5 lbs. It'd be nice if they could've got them to 1.5 lbs. In this day and age of gimbals, coptors and small cameras, smaller is better.

August 6, 2015 at 2:00AM

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Tim Naylor - DP
Director of Photography
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We need a camera corporation like blackmagic or Panasonic ( an innovative corporation ) with a camera including a larger capture chip
with a program to do in the camera the crop for giving us the film ratio we want.
A example you have a chip how are super 35mm in film it's a 4 perforation hight
you split this in 2 and get a 2 perforation by super 35mm wide ( so you got the scoop ratio with normal lens then) You just need to put the crop in the center of the lens.
You want to used real scoop lens you put the set up for a ratio 4/3 or you have a ratio window made for scoop in film.( also call full gate)
maybe this is too simple but could be the way for Indie film just ad flare at post.

August 6, 2015 at 7:09PM

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