November 26, 2015

Here's an EPIC DRAGON on Fire, Shot in 8K 72fps by RED's Vista Vision Camera

RED EPIC DRAGON on Fire GDU 24mm Lens
How do you like your cameras? Rare, Medium Rare, or Medium? What about Well Done?

Jarred Land, President of RED, has an interesting side project called Global Dynamics United (among other things). One of the first products from this venture is a rehoused Canon 24mm f/2.8, which has been made bullet-proof — as all lenses should be. It's going to be available in aluminum or titanium backs, and for testing purposes, they put it on an EPIC DRAGON, blasting it with water and fire, and just so happened to shoot it in 8K at 72fps on the RED WEAPON Vista Vision camera:

This is clearly more intensive than a lens test needs to be, but if you're going to make a bullet-proof lens, you might as well go all the way and see how it holds up to the most extreme conditions. If you're wondering, the EPIC DRAGON and lens both survived the test.

Land put this whole clip together on this Dell XPS with Thunderbolt 3:

Jarred Land Dell XPS RED 8K

Some RED 8K footage has been mixed in with other projects over the last year, and though there was a public showing of 8K footage at Cine Gear in June, not much has been shown since (that footage did look great, however). And if you're wondering where you could watch 8K footage online, YouTube can apparently support 8K, but I wasn't able to play it back on a fast connection with a 5K iMac. Either way, it would be nice to see some additional scenes in 8K, especially shots of more than inanimate objects. 

I'm sure we will get more examples over the coming months, but I wouldn't expect much better performance over the 6K DRAGON sensors as the 8K sensor shares similar characteristics — just a lot bigger. 

If you want to order the lens, you can find the options here    

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How do I like my cameras? I like them RAW

November 26, 2015 at 8:39PM

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Gareth Ng
Cinematographer
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Well-played.

November 26, 2015 at 8:45PM

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Joe Marine
Camera Department

shot on a canon 550d

November 26, 2015 at 9:07PM, Edited November 26, 9:07PM

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salajan mihai
Director
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so why the fuck is this needed?

November 26, 2015 at 10:03PM

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Max Ciesynski
Gaffer
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Ha, yeah, I'm thinking the same thing? What??

November 26, 2015 at 11:33PM

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Micah Van Hove
Writer
director, producer, dp

I cant say much about the RED line and their controlled experiments but here is a real life situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MQ4KUZLUDo

November 27, 2015 at 12:19PM

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Emre Tufekci
Director
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As Jack Handey would say, "If you ever drop your keys into a river of molten lava, let 'em go, because man, they're gone." The RED might come out of this kind of situation okay but you'd have one crispy DP ;)

November 27, 2015 at 12:01AM, Edited November 27, 12:04AM

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Sean Korbitz
Director of Photography
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Why would I need a bulletproof lens?

November 27, 2015 at 2:52AM

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Run-n-gun in the Mid-East ? A vest might come in handy too.

November 27, 2015 at 2:12PM

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Saied M.
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Is this a underlying proposal at film equipment prepped for legitimate warfare given the current tension across the globe?

"your cinematographer might not survive, but at least his footage will."

November 27, 2015 at 6:19AM

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A clothing line? Really?!

November 27, 2015 at 6:52AM, Edited November 27, 6:52AM

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Would've looked better if the fire came from underneath the camera. Not that hard to do. Now its as if the fire is sprayed on like a spray tan.

November 27, 2015 at 7:23AM, Edited November 27, 7:23AM

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Catastrophe test November 24 2016... 2016?
Is this footage from the future?!

November 27, 2015 at 8:05AM

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Matt Carter
VFX Artist / Director / DP / Writer / Composer / Alexa Owner
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If the lens' front element were actually bulletproof it would have melted. I'd also like to note that if they'd used a WEAPON the plastic in the body would have melted.

November 27, 2015 at 9:25AM

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Wouldn't the constant spray of water keep the temperature down? Not that this is a particularly practical test to begin with... but I mean...

November 27, 2015 at 11:06AM

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Ivan Verlaan
Director / Cinematographer / Colourist
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I signed up on the website.. Said it held a lens for me.. Didn't realize I was making an order but hey! Hehe anymore info on these lenses?

November 27, 2015 at 11:25AM, Edited November 27, 11:25AM

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I think it's a rehoused Canon 24mm Pancake, f2.8.

November 30, 2015 at 7:30PM

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Derek Olson
Directomatographeditor
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It's not so much about 8K itself than a fullframe VistaVision sized cinema-grade sensor.

November 27, 2015 at 12:50PM

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Terma Louis
Photographer / Cinematographer / Editor
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Exactly.

November 27, 2015 at 1:02PM

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Brad Grimm
Director/DP
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Would like to see this sensor at its best.

November 27, 2015 at 1:34PM

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Gene Nemetz
live streaming
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Yes, because I'm tired of having so much stuff in focus. I want fussy, 5D-style DOF where the entire filmmaking project is an exercise in wrangling the 1-cm depth of field.

November 28, 2015 at 1:01AM

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David Gurney
DP
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Yes, because we are all forced to shoot wide open all the time...

November 29, 2015 at 11:59AM

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Brad Grimm
Director/DP
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A picture of the sensor:

http://postimg.org/image/ayru1f6ml/

This is the actual sensor from Jarred Land's facebook page.

November 29, 2015 at 1:35PM, Edited November 29, 1:38PM

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Gene Nemetz
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Well, can't see much from 8K in this particular setting. Would really like to see something showing the color, and resolution of 8K. Will have to keep waiting.

November 27, 2015 at 1:33PM

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Gene Nemetz
live streaming
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That was all show. The rubber on the rear cable was barely smoking. Clearly, it can take water spray and flames at the same time... but so can most fabrics.

November 27, 2015 at 2:41PM

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scott stoneback
DP, cameraman
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Bullshit video. Any camera would survive fire while being sprayed with water at the same time.

What's the point??

November 27, 2015 at 5:31PM

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I'm starting to think the point of videos like this is to piss you guys off, because it works sooooo well. They probably did it because they can and thought it'd be fun to do. What more reason do they need?

Yet another fine example of people thinking everything they see on the internets has to appeal to them personally, as if it were made with them in mind, otherwise it's shite and an affront to their delicate sensibilities.

November 27, 2015 at 7:50PM, Edited November 27, 7:50PM

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It's stupid shit like this that makes Red a joke, and has since day one. Their juvenile branding and the horde of slobbering supplicants on RedUser seriously damaged their credibility in the industry. And that's too bad, because Jim Jannard DID drag the industry into proper digital motion-picture acquisition and give us something better than the shit Sony was (and still is) peddling for five times the price.

What Red needs to be showing is that they finally have a chip that can reproduce BLUE, for starters. Ever notice that everything shot on the Mysterium wound up being sepia-toned? Book of Eli, anyone? "Stylistic choice" my ass. The TV show Southland was the same way. Brown, brown, and more brown. The bluest of skies was pale and wan in Red footage for years. Even the early Scarlet demo footage that Jim colored himself was BROWN.

I'm a fan of what Red has done and hope they'll do more great things. But this tired old crap doesn't help. Red needs to put a couple of professionals in place to handle branding and oversee UI design. This amateur-hour stuff doesn't cut it anymore.

November 28, 2015 at 2:44AM, Edited November 28, 2:47AM

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David Gurney
DP
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David, you do realize this is an ad for a new lens Jarred designed right? I think this video should have just focused on the lens it self, but i think they got excited when the camera was still working after this test

November 28, 2015 at 9:46AM

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Arri just burns people with how much it costs to rent their cameras.

November 28, 2015 at 10:43AM

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Gene Nemetz
live streaming
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At least Red Epic Dragon users will now know they can shoot in the depths of Hell without any issues.

November 28, 2015 at 5:54PM

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Glenn Thomas
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