Let’s say you’re an indie filmmaker and Nicole Kidman asks you to direct her tv show. You say “hell yeah,” right? Well, that wasn’t Lulu Wang’s first response when she was approached to direct the Amazon Prime limited series, Expats.

In today’s episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins, speaks with Director Lulu Wang to discuss:

  • Why Lulu originally rejected Nicole Kidman’s proposal to direct the show
  • How she protected her creative vision in a high production, studio project
  • Exploring and dissecting privilege throughout the show
  • Where they always start when planning each episode
  • Changing the visual language in each episode
  • Episode 5, "Central" (who premiered as a standalone film at TIFF)
  • The different perspectives represented in the writer’s room
  • The benefits to shooting on location
  • Recording real life sounds while location scouting
  • Starting a production company to support other filmmakers
  • Why emerging filmmakers shouldn’t follow industry trends


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This episode of The No Film School Podcast was produced by GG Hawkins.